I was radicalized by feminist Tumblr back in the early 2010s, so the “I hate men” thing has become a pillar of my personality for over a decade. I have always justified it in my head because women hating men has never led to men’s rights being taken away, or affected their pay/body autonomy/healthcare/safety, etc… And while my actual feelings about it are very nuanced, similar to how you’ve laid it out here, I have funneled it down to a simple “I hate men” because it’s easier. But you’re right. Even as a ‘joke’, it is ultimately unhelpful. It pushes good men away, while infuriating the losers even further.
You’ve given me lots to think about! Time to switch up my personal branding to “I hate losers” from now on.
A good man is *glad* to see a woman who openly hates men. They say, "Yep, I've been around men and I know exactly why that is!"
The crybabies are the ones throwing fits and saying "nOt ALL mEN!1". Like yeah, dude, no one ever said it was.
Crybabies are not desirable anyway, so them walking away is a very good thing. The hating of men is only ramping up and will only change when said men improve themselves.
"What started as valid critique of specific behaviors has been completely stripped down to simply “I hate men.” Women go viral with shallow, vague commentary about how they never want men to talk to them. The comments filled with women agreeing. Not only does this messaging hurt women who still desire partnership (the vast majority), women skirt accountability for their own behaviors that create these conflicts."
Nope. Men don't get to fob the responsibility for their bad behavior off on women. The only one to blame is the perpetrator. The victim gets zero blame. The perp is responsible.
"I hate men" is the natural conclusion of said critiques. Hating oppressors means someone has a will to live. It means she has the will to survive and will stand tall on what she knows is true. Women are not putting "fuel on the fire" ..women are watching men dump on buckets of lighter fluid and saying YEAH THIS IS TRASH and stepping completely back and away. That is called self preservation.
A man who pouts and stomps about this and swears off women isn't eligible anyway. The good man says, "Yep, I know why women hate men. No mystery there, and good for them. I'm going to keep doing what men should be". Plenty of men state this openly on social media and in meatspace. Anyone who disagrees can go straight to those men and tell them they are wrong. Men can take this up with the *other men* who disagree. Targeting only women for saying the same thing is cowardly.
Would you please share how you detect a loser within seconds? I think men understand other men differently than how women see men. I know what I look out for. I'm curious if you see what I see. Thank you!
I think this is a very interesting point, that thinking 'all men are trash' alienate heterosexual women from potential male partners, but it is also a common thought process in today's society. Like you said, some men want that 'trad wife' but have no redeeming 'trad husband' qualities. This inspired my own substack article, so thank you for the inspiration!
Discernment will save you from embarrassment every time.
This was very insightful, thank you.
I was radicalized by feminist Tumblr back in the early 2010s, so the “I hate men” thing has become a pillar of my personality for over a decade. I have always justified it in my head because women hating men has never led to men’s rights being taken away, or affected their pay/body autonomy/healthcare/safety, etc… And while my actual feelings about it are very nuanced, similar to how you’ve laid it out here, I have funneled it down to a simple “I hate men” because it’s easier. But you’re right. Even as a ‘joke’, it is ultimately unhelpful. It pushes good men away, while infuriating the losers even further.
You’ve given me lots to think about! Time to switch up my personal branding to “I hate losers” from now on.
Good point that this isn’t actually new, it’s just recently caught wind for a bigger audience. Thanks for the thoughtful comment
A good man is *glad* to see a woman who openly hates men. They say, "Yep, I've been around men and I know exactly why that is!"
The crybabies are the ones throwing fits and saying "nOt ALL mEN!1". Like yeah, dude, no one ever said it was.
Crybabies are not desirable anyway, so them walking away is a very good thing. The hating of men is only ramping up and will only change when said men improve themselves.
"What started as valid critique of specific behaviors has been completely stripped down to simply “I hate men.” Women go viral with shallow, vague commentary about how they never want men to talk to them. The comments filled with women agreeing. Not only does this messaging hurt women who still desire partnership (the vast majority), women skirt accountability for their own behaviors that create these conflicts."
Nope. Men don't get to fob the responsibility for their bad behavior off on women. The only one to blame is the perpetrator. The victim gets zero blame. The perp is responsible.
"I hate men" is the natural conclusion of said critiques. Hating oppressors means someone has a will to live. It means she has the will to survive and will stand tall on what she knows is true. Women are not putting "fuel on the fire" ..women are watching men dump on buckets of lighter fluid and saying YEAH THIS IS TRASH and stepping completely back and away. That is called self preservation.
A man who pouts and stomps about this and swears off women isn't eligible anyway. The good man says, "Yep, I know why women hate men. No mystery there, and good for them. I'm going to keep doing what men should be". Plenty of men state this openly on social media and in meatspace. Anyone who disagrees can go straight to those men and tell them they are wrong. Men can take this up with the *other men* who disagree. Targeting only women for saying the same thing is cowardly.
Would you please share how you detect a loser within seconds? I think men understand other men differently than how women see men. I know what I look out for. I'm curious if you see what I see. Thank you!
I think this is a very interesting point, that thinking 'all men are trash' alienate heterosexual women from potential male partners, but it is also a common thought process in today's society. Like you said, some men want that 'trad wife' but have no redeeming 'trad husband' qualities. This inspired my own substack article, so thank you for the inspiration!
Interesting take! Thanks for sharing it.
I wrote an observation about the online uproar after publication of the Vogue-article, if you’re interested to read it. I wonder how you view this:
https://saraimock.substack.com/p/if-having-a-boyfriend-has-become?r=1ubzdl&utm_medium=ios